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Dimitri De Spiegeleer
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Currently there aren't too many.
The number of RWC-B 's will certainly rise, without a doubt.
But even then, there will still be need for RWC's for EXC 3 and 4, and those courses aren't < easy hoop jumping >. Those are at this moment even more in demand, and major fabricators ( think bridges, hospitals, buildings for nuclear and other energy facilities,...) cannot afford not working according to EN 1090. So, high in demand now. + it has taken me over a year for getting IWE certified ( courses + exams), so the need is now arising, and the next "delivery" of IWT's and IWE's will not be before end 2015.
The number of RWC-B 's will certainly rise, without a doubt.
But even then, there will still be need for RWC's for EXC 3 and 4, and those courses aren't < easy hoop jumping >. Those are at this moment even more in demand, and major fabricators ( think bridges, hospitals, buildings for nuclear and other energy facilities,...) cannot afford not working according to EN 1090. So, high in demand now. + it has taken me over a year for getting IWE certified ( courses + exams), so the need is now arising, and the next "delivery" of IWT's and IWE's will not be before end 2015.
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The course wasn't too bad, but you defiantly need a certain level of base knowledge (and your wallet emptying lol). If you have been to collage/done apprenticeship then it's just a couple of days reading up and the exams are fairly easy. But I know a lot of 'welders' who would struggle as there is a huge lack of knowledge in a lot of places here. This is where I think EN1090 will be good for the industry.
glad you flew thru it,did you do the course in newtown?
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Yes I did it at Newtown college, it was run by CDL group. I was lucky because I live locally, but there were people from all over the country there. Are you looking to do the course yourself?
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For the weldors, not very much, they do have to do some quality checks (visual testing for instance) and tick off the appropriate box when done checking.
The welding coordinator does have some additional tasks though, like checking the weldor's certificates for their validity, making sure the equipment used (welding machines, measuring equipment, machinery, ...) is controlled on a regular basis (yearly), ... Most of the administration is for him. But once all checklists and forms are made, most of the work is done. Then it's just following the lists and signing off when something's done.
mid wales,yes am thinking of doing it there,there's a few things to consider ,as i'm a 2-man show its a big undertaking mentally & financially as the costs would take a few years to retrieve & i could just drop out of that type of work altogether.there's also the consideration of ongoing updating tasks.
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Honestly, your thinking of doing an administrative thing that will take "a few years" to retrieve the costs on? Its your money but do consider the other lines that level of investment could take you down or just plain "take you down". Looking at the political climate through Europe it takes but one tiny thing to end the whole ""European state" experiment and with the next election looming with UKIP making unprecedented strides forwards and Ca-moron making more election promises about his mythical "referendum" an over fished bait to my mind! EN / CE numbers are quite likely to revert to BSI again or even a third alternative within that "few years". You can bet if world exports are opened up to the UK to negotiate on its own Europe will take a back seat as regards export sales effort because over half are actually bankrupt
How stupid is this "Err, Bob I have finished now, come have a look at my welding", "hang on I am just painting numbers on a load of steel we had on the rack, I mean safety first and all that!"
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About CE marking of balustrades:
The letter (see link blow) came recently to our attention.
As the draft about the scope of the EN1090 isn't final yet, no EU country can make this kind of decisions. This is also said in this letter.
So, all this letter does right now, is create more confusion.
For the time being, there is no final conclusion about whether or not balustrades are subject to EN1090 or not.
http://www.thehsqedepartment.com/drupal/content/news-and-events
The letter (see link blow) came recently to our attention.
As the draft about the scope of the EN1090 isn't final yet, no EU country can make this kind of decisions. This is also said in this letter.
So, all this letter does right now, is create more confusion.
For the time being, there is no final conclusion about whether or not balustrades are subject to EN1090 or not.
http://www.thehsqedepartment.com/drupal/content/news-and-events
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We've just gone thru all this at work over the last 3/4 months, weld tests, visual inspection tests,they wernt too bad, it was clearing the factory off all none tracable steel and keeping up with the paper work thats the ball ache.
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So, we have our weld tests on Tuesday to qualify the welders (my self and one other bloke) and procedures. These should cover us for everything we will be doing. The test are all in MAG, details we have been given are:
Single run fillet on 6mm 355 steel, 350mm long with a stop/start in the centre.
Multi run fillet on 30mm 355 steel, 350mm long with a 50mm tack in centre to be incorporated into the weld.
76mm pipe to 12mm plate, single run fillet with four stop starts.
Butt weld on 12mm plate with stop/start in the centre.
The weld sizes and tolerances have been given but I can't remember them off the top of my head lol.
Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on these tests?
Also does anyone know weather the butt weld test would be a single run V-butt, double V-butt or multi run?
Single run fillet on 6mm 355 steel, 350mm long with a stop/start in the centre.
Multi run fillet on 30mm 355 steel, 350mm long with a 50mm tack in centre to be incorporated into the weld.
76mm pipe to 12mm plate, single run fillet with four stop starts.
Butt weld on 12mm plate with stop/start in the centre.
The weld sizes and tolerances have been given but I can't remember them off the top of my head lol.
Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on these tests?
Also does anyone know weather the butt weld test would be a single run V-butt, double V-butt or multi run?
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My opinion is why have four stop/ starts on a 76mm pipe? the idea is to minimise them not build in as many as possible for the crack.
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Haha, I thought that too! My guess it's more to test the stop starts as opposed to the joint type, but then why that can't just be done on a straight fillet I don't know.
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I should love to see the guy that wrote it find one welded like that pre- en1090, we are just paying to jump through hoops set by fools. A weld test should ultimatly replicate that which is actually being done in the field
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I agree, I would have said an absolute maximum of 3 stop/starts. It is a lot of money (although it's my boss paying not me) but I feel with the general lack of knowledge amongst 'welders' in this country it's definitely a good thing overall.
What do you think about the butt weld, multi run, double V?
What do you think about the butt weld, multi run, double V?
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Well how many two inch long tacks have you welded over in a multi pass? I am not a fan of this at all, its just an easy way of ensuring other Eu nations can quote (an legally must be asked in an approved tendering process for a lot of jobs). Oh and more money to feed those making the rules and provide more work for more failed politicians. Heck we cannot even get a clear guide to what is or isn't included and the rules are in, I think crack on because in a short while it wont exist in its current EU form anyhow
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A lot of it is stupid but that's just how it is, can only work with what we've got. As I said if it increases the overall knowledge that welders have then it can only be good, I've met so many people who just get given a mag gun and told 'there you go, your a welder now' and then when they go for their next job say 'Yeh I'm a welder' but have absolutely no clue. Had a guy at our place a few weeks ago and told him to do a triple run fillet and he layed down the root (which was Horrendous) then the second and third runs wearn't even touching each other, one just layed on the bottom plate and one on the top plate. This guy said he had been working as a 'welder' for 20years!
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To make sure you've got the hang of them.
If you can do 4 good restarts in a bit of pipe, chances are you'll be fine when there is only 2...
