Finnish shed build

[gaz1]

where a beam is fitted its better to have a dual post straight down to the ground

this is support and its a main support to the building

what your dad built may be fine but its not advisable true beam support is weight spread into the frame and supported straight down to the floor

 

[DennisCA]

This design was already signed off by construction engineers, it might not be the best, but it's sufficient for a shed and it's overbuilt compared to a lot in the same size range. That's good enough for me.

 

[gaz1]

This design was already signed off by construction engineers, it might not be the best, but it's sufficient for a shed and it's overbuilt compared to a lot in the same size range. That's good enough for me.

yet your changing it

 

[gaz1]

Haven't gotten that much done yet, stuck with price issues, I was planning to use massive standing beams like 5-6" square for the roof beams, but they are so damn expensive I am reconsidering. I looked at the shed my dad built 40 years ago, he used 2x4 studs instead and had a top plate the beams rest on. His beams are only like 4x4 too.

I made an alternative design in CAD from 2x4s entirely. The roof beams are also updated since I know their final dimensions now.

I designed a wooden I-beam to go under the roof beam.

Last night I cut all the parts to length and planed them on all 4 sides so I would get to work with straight lumber.

 

[DennisCA]

The way I am changing it doesn't change the function, just replacing the solid posts with another type of post. But there was no straight post down to the ground before the change either, the old posts where the same height.

 

[DennisCA]

I beefed up the center post so it's three laminated studs.

All the posts are now assembled. Still attaching some "plates" to stiffen it up in the direction of the gables.

Double studs under the side beams as well

This is how I move the beams, I really like this solution, didn't need to buy anything at all, I already had this and it works as well.

The ridge beam, still gonna do some work on it before getting it up on the roof.

 

[gaz1]

im glad that you have done its the middle beam that takes the most weight on it

noticed the upgrades

 

[DennisCA]

From what I was taught by the guy who taught me about roof beam construction, the two beams on the side would be the ones taking the largest loads and the center beam one has less because there is less roof over it so to speak. But the center beam adds strength none the less and reduces the loads on the side beams. That's why I made the center beam from the smallest log and got it to 6x7 inches , the others are 7x8 inches.

 

[DennisCA]

Phew! That was a few tricky operations and I'm not done yet. Getting the ridge beam in place.

First I made a kind of ladder so I could move the beam a little a time

It worked well enough until the last stage, that one was the heaviest. I am not sure if I can do this with the side beams as they are heavier. I need to consider that a bit.

Then I had to get it up the next step and lifting from a ladder is really difficult, wasn't gonna work. I made some diagonal braces instead and I greased them up with waxilit which is a dry wax based lubricant I put on cast iron tables, like the table saw. This made it a lot easier to slide the beam sideways.

I was using a ratcheting winch but apparently it was not in any of my photos. I ratcheted it a bit and then I screwed in a step for it to rest on.

Then I had to remove the winch and go to the other side and ratchet it up all the way on that side. Then go back again and do it one final time.

But I still got the center post left... That's gonna be even worse.

But I got it figured out, gonna attach the winch to a 2x4 which will be attached to the center post and winch it up. I am gonna need to get another winch however so I can do it on both sides...

It's just one of these winches:

 

[gaz1]

no one will do

im surprised that you didnt use the gin pole method

lift crane

what you need to remember is your fitting it with block and tackle for an easy lift heres the old way using a capstan and block and tackle usually seen on wood ships

www.mig-welding.co.uk

 

[DennisCA]

OK it stopped raining for a while so I got the beam up! No time for taking photos while I was lifting it into place, but here's just after it lifted into place. It worked really well. I also made a groove on the top of the board that I used as a crane, rounded it over, sanded it smooth so the strap could slide easily and not get damaged, and also so the strap could not move sideways and fall off.

Then I used a hammer to nudge it into place and I screwed it in place, then I added some diagonal bracing as well:

 

[My Old Landy]

Superb, it just shows you can do anything when pushed!! Excellent work

 

[DennisCA]

And I got another beam up, almost all the way, just need to get it up the next incline.

I didn't lift this one step by step, instead I used the winches again, attached them to the frame and hoisted them up, went quite well, easier than the other method.

I could've sworn I took pictures mid lift but alas seems I got nothing. Only this of the cat getting in the way again

 

[gaz1]

isnt it easier using the pole lift method

 

[magnet]

Outstanding work............Hats off to you sir

 

[DennisCA]

OK things slowed down because I am back at work since last week, I did get the last beam in place however before sunday ended.

Next I made some scaffolding.

And after that I put up one side of the rafters.

I used the scaffolding so I could adjust the rafters, I only nailed them in place with a single nail at the bottom first. Then I used an axe and a chisel to adjust the beams so the rafters all sit evenly across. I used a taught line that I had going above the rafters from edge to edge, that gave me a reference to work from.

In some places I used "shims" (a bit thick for a shim perhaps) which are also nailed and glued with PU glue. It was better I felt to shim some, or I would have had to lower all the other rafters and they where all sitting evenly and nice already.

 

[Blobber]

Its going to be a nice building once its done, whats with the roof ladder on your your place behind?

 

[DennisCA]

Standard built-in ladder for the chimney sweep, I think all houses have them

 

[magnet]

Standard built-in ladder for the chimney sweep, I think all houses have them

Well i be dipped in sh1t. What a good idea

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Standard built-in ladder for the chimney sweep, I think all houses have them

Bet Santa loves you