New shed options

[Retired]

Hi,

I no longer have a garden shed having erected two garden huts these without windows for security from our local low life.

Construction is simple frame with treated 6" x 1" boards for the rest including roof which was then felted; each hut sits on treated 3" x 3" square fence posts lifted clear of the ground. Stainless steels steel screws throughout. I designed lock covers cutting these out on my bandsaw to give weatherproofing to the locks and they work a treat. Living here in Yorkshire I was constantly fighting bad weather; mid summer it was often 10C pouring with rain and one day I was peppered by hail whilst slimy slugs and snails etc kept me company; the weather removed every bit of enjoyment from the job.

We live on a very steep valley side fully exposed to extremes of weather which is usually dire as it is as I type seldom letting up. Digging out just to get a bit of level ground was hard graft.

Both huts are clear of the ground offering lots of ventilation; they are heavy and solid.

The lock wooden covers I dreamt up and they work a treat costing nothing made from offcuts.

Kind regards, Colin.

 

[123hotchef]

cool the mrs has said i can build what ever i want down there but I need to erect a nice fence in front of the shed. So now I am thinking just use osb, felt and the box section steel sheets all over the shed

 

[123hotchef]

I think I am going to wait until it becomes dryer! empty the greenhouse 14x6 and take it down and get rid, move the fire wood stores they are 12x4
then I can get rid of the rockery area and build a bigger shed with a lean too for the fire wood and a covered out side area for blasting and de-rusting.

 

[rosinante]

To ventilate my shed , mancave I rigged 4 computer fans drawing air in under the overhang at the top
Exhausting through vents lowdown at the back , these are powered by a solar panel left over from our caravanning days , no voltage regulation , straight off the panel , hotter it is faster they go , fans were about a quid each on ebay,

 

[123hotchef]

To ventilate my shed , mancave I rigged 4 computer fans drawing air in under the overhang at the top
Exhausting through vents lowdown at the back , these are powered by a solar panel left over from our caravanning days , no voltage regulation , straight off the panel , hotter it is faster they go , fans were about a quid each on ebay,

oh i like that idea.

 

[addjunkie]

If your going to sheet the roof with osb, you could lay kingspan over it, then membrane, then tin sheets, would only lift the height by say 100mm if you used 70 mil insulation. Or more expensive, but neater, better, and no need for osb to use insulated sheet.

 

[123hotchef]

If your going to sheet the roof with osb, you could lay kingspan over it, then membrane, then tin sheets, would only lift the height by say 100mm if you used 70 mil insulation. Or more expensive, but neater, better, and no need for osb to use insulated sheet.

just use insulated metal sheets over the roof joists is this what you mean @addjunkie with no membrane?

 

[gaz1]

I think I am going to wait until it becomes dryer! empty the greenhouse 14x6 and take it down and get rid, move the fire wood stores they are 12x4
then I can get rid of the rockery area and build a bigger shed with a lean too for the fire wood and a covered out side area for blasting and de-rusting.

id get started if you can do the earlier you start the better before everything starts grwing will make it hard work then

 

[123hotchef]

id get started if you can do the earlier you start the better before everything starts grwing will make it hard work then

I have nowhere to put all the stuff in the green house and the fire wood oh man that will take a day to move also. but a fair bit will be burnt by the end of april

 

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

I have nowhere to put all the stuff in the green house and the fire wood oh man that will take a day to move also. but a fair bit will be burnt by the end of april

Take glass out of greenhouse. Move it out the way. Cover in decent polythene and store while you build the new shed

 

[123hotchef]

Take glass out of greenhouse. Move it out the way. Cover in decent polythene and store while you build the new shed

now there is an idea i can try that it may make the move

 

[123hotchef]

my mate has said do a concrete base especially if I want to hold heavy stock in it of metal, nuts bolts ect ect.
He reakons I wil need
110x25kg bags ballast and 19 bags cement

 

[slimjim]

On my man cave, I put in an insulated concrete floor in, first a 1m block wall around two sides, and a single block around the rest that retain a soil bank, the foundations dug then DPM laid, the Wall was tanked and then insulated on the outside and the DPM folded over both the insulation and the wall, and connected into the floor DPM, I then used 6x2 C16 for the walls, with 11mm osb3 on the outside, with breather membrane, vertical battens, with stainless mesh at the bottom, for ventilation,

Then 4x2 home made trusses for the roof, breather membrane and Marley double Roman roof tiles, with vented ridge, underneath that, will be 75mm kingspan, with an air gap that will be linked to the wall insulation and the wall ventilation linked as well,

The reason for the overkill 6x2 is that I have 100mm polystyrene insulation, then a damp proof membrane, leaving a 2 inch gap for electrics, then osb3, then plasterboard, the osb3 is so I can screw things easy into the plasterboard,

It’s way over the top, but I want to be able to use it all year round, the cost difference over 4x2 is not much, and the tiled roof cost Was comparatlble to other less durable roofs.

 

[123hotchef]

That could be a idea one retaining wall made from blocks to hold back the soil dug out for the base and footings, then I could use sleepers the other side so it looks nice from the house.
Do you have any pictures? What did u tank the block walls with behind the soil.

 

[slimjim]

That could be a idea one retaining wall made from blocks to hold back the soil dug out for the base and footings, then I could use sleepers the other side so it looks nice from the house.
Do you have any pictures? What did u tank the block walls with behind the soil.

I used sbr and cement, then spray foam stuck water resistant insulation on that, then the membrane that I put down under the founds, went a foot up over the wood frame, then back filled with the few tonnes of rocks I dug out, I don’t have many pictures, you can see part of the wall here



It’s moved on from this picture, it will be larch clad

 

[123hotchef]

thanks that gives me a idea, so the insulation is under the DPM which is under the earth now

 

[gaz1]

i will give you another view its all about a nice view for other people as well as yourself



after creosote



previous pic of this not my work

 

[slimjim]

thanks that gives me a idea, so the insulation is under the DPM which is under the earth now

I dug the foundations laid 1200 visqueen in the hole, with a couple of metres either side, then I poured the concrete, built a single skin block wall, with the piers on the inside, then I painted the outside of the wall with sbr cement mix, then used the close cell polystyrene insulation on the outer side of the wall, using spray foam as a glue, and on the joints, I then wrapped the dpm over the wall, so the insulation is inside with the wall of the dpm, then I filled the remaining gap with rocks, and then ground fabric, then nice looking slate clippings on top of that.

 

[DAPPH]

my mate has said do a concrete base especially if I want to hold heavy stock in it of metal, nuts bolts ect ect.
He reakons I wil need
110x25kg bags ballast and 19 bags cement

Sod mixing that by hand , in a barrow or in a Bellemix that you took to bits and carried through the house . I'd check out ready mix and a concrete pump hire so you could pump from the road & over the house into the backyard & drop it over reinforcing mesh in a strong wooden form , then petrol power float it smooth . It would be down in an hour and floated off over two or three runs over the next 12 hrs and all be of the same quality of mix & strength as well as nice and smooth . You could also do wooden or steel form work for decent paths etc so if there is any concrete left over you can use if for paths etc.

 

[123hotchef]

I have a electric cement mixer here that i would mix it in. I used it loads for the other reovation works on the house